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Why so much support for Ron Paul at UTEP?

Letter to the editor

Published: Monday, February 6, 2012

Updated: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 10:02

I ask, as evidenced by The Prospector's recent poll, why do UTEP students support Ron Paul? In the last issue, with the student interviews, why did students respond with favoring Ron Paul? The question was who should be the nominee, NOT who do you think will win? Many students said that Ron Paul was going to win, because he has very strong advertising. What does that have to do with the question who SHOULD be the nominee?

As far as favoring Ron Paul in general, why is there so much support at UTEP for him? As a side note, as Ron Paul being someone who likes to talk about downsizing government and cutting spending, the Washington Post stated that "Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive first class flight tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston, according to the AP's review of his congressional expenses and average airfares compiled by the Department of Transportation."

Now to be fair, his staff said he prefers first class because a congressman's schedule changes so much and the cheaper tickets don't allow for rescheduling but it turns out, according to the article, that "few schedule changes were necessary." So it would still make sense for him to cancel a few flights and save over $20,000, no?

 Also he wants to CUT STUDENT LOANS and strip the Department of Education to mere data collectors.

CNN stated, "Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Sunday his proposed plan to phase out federal student loans would lower the costs of a college education, making it more affordable for those wanting to attend."

The Texas congressman, who is making his third presidential bid, said federally-funded education assistance raises the price of education while not improving the caliber, a cycle that will "backfire."

Paul's plan would eliminate the Department of Education, but keep the features that handle student loans for the time being, ensuring there are no cuts to those currently receiving assistance or who will in the near future.

In a USA Today editorial, Paul said eventually transitioning away from government-backed student aid would "give us better educational opportunities at a better price."

In an interview with CNN, Paul said "why should people who are laborers who never get to go to college, why should they be taxed to send some of us through college? So it's not even a fair system when it works. But obviously it doesn't work and that's why it's coming to an end."

Paul has long advocated for cuts in spending and the national debt, while calling for numerous government agencies to shut their doors and a renewed emphasis on individual responsibility. His responsibility platform also extends to education, he said.

"The responsibility is on the individual and the family to take care of their needs, not the federal bureaucracy. It just doesn't work," Paul said.

When asked if he would agree that some people in the United States "need federal help," Paul told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley that there are "always some needs, the market isn't perfect."

"It will not be perfect, but what we have now is this catastrophic mistake where people have a pseudo education and no jobs," Paul said. "We've indentured them."

Paul's current plan would favor extremely wealthy families, the middle class would struggle, and the poor would find it extremely difficult to go to a four-year university, making many opt for only community college or a technical school. Community college and technical schools are great institutions, but what if I don't want to be a mechanic or welder? What if I want to study engineering instead and my parents hardly have money to put on the table?

Knowing this, I think Ron Paul is the worst candidate for college students to consider. He has some good ideas and he does have strong arguments, but his "cure" for the country's ills are too aggressive. Mr. Paul wants to throw under the bus those who depend on work-study and financial aid in grants and loans. Mr. Paul KNOWS all the statistics and how many people depend on it. His expectations are too high. If he wants to do what he says, it is a process that would take decades to implement, and from what I have read, he would do it right away, or at least try to.

But its ok for those in college that still support him. As Penn from Penn and Teller said on Big Think, I will defend your right to say whatever you want to say, but I will then say you're wrong and then give reasons why I think you are wrong, I'm paraphrasing.

Ron Paul will do, I suppose, it's only the future of every college student, whatevs. Some have to suffer for the whole to thrive, I guess.

In short this is how I interpret Mr. Paul's words: Instead of finding a way to give students easier access to a university, lets make it harder in the SHORT TERM, and hope that in the FUTURE, universities and the states take pity on the young and un-college educated.

VOTE RON PAUL 2012! If you don't want loans, grants, or workstudy...

P.S. I applaud the Prospector for the courage to bring up the issue of athletics and education and how it relates to UTEP.

 - Reyes Espinoza, senior double major in theatre performance and philosophy

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19 comments

Nobama
Thu Feb 23 2012 12:23
Obama is as evil as Bush. More wars, Libya, now looking at Iran and Syria, and he won the Noble Peace Prize what a joke..... Extended the Patriot Act, supports and signed the NDAA, Ordered the assasination of American citizens one of them was a 16 yr old. and his friend.... Obama is just a puppet like bush and every other president.... says one thing and does another..... But ROn Paul is the only one that could save this country... Democrates and Republicans are the same thing... Open you eyes thats why they FEAR Ron Paul.. This country is doomed without him in the oval office.... RON PAUL 2012!!!
Rik
Thu Feb 23 2012 12:12
Are country is bankrupt and we are headed towards a financial collapse and Ron Paul is the only one that is talking about the real issues protecting our Civil Liberties, ending the Fed, ending the wars, ending the Foreign aid,... educate yourself before writing stupid articles..... read his books...... and understand his position in depth .
Anonymous
Fri Feb 10 2012 16:38
There are many condescending comments on this page. The person who wrote this article uses sarcasm at times to highlight points, granted, but many of you are outright attacking with little to no substance in your comments. Utep Student at 11:14 says we should end the Federal Reserve, but fails to give any reasons why? Implicitly it seems Utep student thinks freedom equals ending the Fed. From UTEP Student's comment all I can decipher is that he does want the Fed to exist anymore. But why? Utep Student may be right, but we don't know. The Fed seems demonic at the moment because of all the financial crisis, so it is a very popular feeling Utep student is portraying, but is it correct?
Some people keep attacking his choice of degree as evidence of his obvious failure to know certain facts. Also many people find the article to be anti-liberty. Is Ron Paul the only way to freedom?
When did socialism become anti-liberty? Europe has a great deal of socialism and they are also in trouble with their economy as of late. Does this mean socialism does not work? No. The U.S. had a housing bubble and other financial crisis recently, does this mean capitalism does not work? No. All this means is that there is some sort of problem with the particular economic system within the country or with the country and its international trade relations and/or more other factors. What do we do about the problem? Should we regulate it more (traditional contemporary democratic view in the U.S.) or should we deregulate it more (traditional contemporary republican stance) or should we get rid of all government institutions except for the basic necessities like a police force and firefighters (more closely aligned with libertarian beliefs)?
Anonymous at 10:38, what about police or firemen, which are paid for by tax dollars and fundraising from their own departments? Does happiness mean only liberty? Or does it also mean safety? Or does it mean a combination of safety and liberty?
Does it mean the government placing children in public education so that the parent is free to go work during the day? How far into the future should the government try to aid in education? Elementary? High School? Graduate School? None? I don't know.
Contemporary government policy has established and defines education as being necessary for the functioning of society. Public education is an expansion on what the government defines as necessary. With the original necessity being a police force and a judicial system. Is the government right? I don't know, but by how your point was reasoned Anonymous at 10:38, I would argue that you do not have the universal right answer for your local community, for the United States, or the world. Further, it is good to champion liberty, but I think a better working definition is needed than the one you gave. How much is too much liberty? How little is too little liberty?
Anonymous
Fri Feb 10 2012 04:43
To Anonymous Feb 9 17:30 how is it that student loans are a "gigantic government tax"? It is not obvious to me. I may be ignorant like the author too. Also over-inflates what prices? Lastly, what you say about interest payments can be said about business bank loans, loan sharks, or credit cards. Do you also disagree with credit cards? If you don't see your statement about government student loans as being similar enough to credit cards or business bank loans I would appreciate it if you say why you think they are not similar enough for me to compare.
Anonymous
Thu Feb 9 2012 17:30
Resorting to gutterball ignorant politics makes you look like an idiot.

Even bypassing the issues of liberty and peace, it should be blatantly obvious to everyone that student "loans" are just a gigantic government tax that over-inflates prices and trains adults that being enslaved to interest payments is the normal state of all people.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 8 2012 02:29
"Whatevs"? Lol. Ron Paul 2012!
CSM Ret
Tue Feb 7 2012 19:37
I went to college the oldfangled way, on the GI Bill AFTER serving my country. But I guess that too is government funded. Want to go to college? Raise your hand and serve!
AndreaPDX
Tue Feb 7 2012 16:56
Is there any way to delete the article itself and replace it with this comments section? Although perhaps we should keep the article; it did provide a good laugh. Especially the "double major in theater performance and philosophy" part. Thanks for trying to teach us about economics and government, but next time stick to what you know (although after reading your article I can't really say what that is).

Please read Dr. Paul's book, "The revolution" and write something new, with a little bit of research backing your claims next time.

Anonymous
Tue Feb 7 2012 15:49
the author clearly doesnt understand economics, which is unfortunate. the tuition of higher education is skyrocketing as a result of government funding. its simple supply and demand - with more money chasing the same amount of goods and services, we have price inflation. colleges have no incentive for cost control because they know the government will continue to give out money. this forces more and more students to take out student loans to afford college. this leads to nothing but debt slavery. in the absence of government financing, colleges HAVE to start cutting costs in order to attract students. free market forces will bring price competition, and student will benefit from it.

before the government ever interfered with colleges, it was the colleges THEMSELVES that loaned money to students and worked out deals on how to meet tuition payments, not the banks. this is why students who graduated became loyal alumni who would send donations to their alma mater as a sign of gratitude. colleges would return this system once the government stops interfering in higher education.

Matt J.
Tue Feb 7 2012 14:04
The comments sections on Ron Paul articles are always so much more intelligent and informative than the story itself.
Adan Rodriguez
Tue Feb 7 2012 11:27
Ah, theatre performance and philosophy, let me guess, beyond the main points, you don't bother to read the details do you which is why you are taking such useless classes for the real world? Don't get me wrong, people need philosophy and should try to take part in theatre to expand their mind and experiences. But don't come to me looking for work and a high paying job with those useless majors. If you are EXCELLENT at it, you will find a job in the industry without those degrees being your core classes.
Let me ask you a question. Do you really think students just want loans removed just to smoke pot and stop the wars? Does that make any sense? Of course not. There are actual students who actually bother to read and understand beyond the main points which is why they support Paul. I was a student during Paul's last run in 2008 and bothered to read his books discussing his points on economics. Most of the article you posted is easily dispelled with his book "The Revolution: A manifesto"
You should understand that with all your quibbling over this and that fine point, his supporters understand that he first and foremost wants to make college AFFORDABLE by ending inflationary tactics by the controllers of the monetary system.
When I started college, classes at my local colleges ranged from 200 for a basic class. Now my fiancé who IS low income and works to help pay for her classes is currently trying to complete college is currently seeing those prices go to 400 dollars a class. Inflation isn't the only reason culprit clearly. There is another reason = Government subsidized education. Obama has PROVEN this is also the case as he has warned colleges if they don't "control their tuition rates" they will not qualify for government subsidies.
Why would Obama say this? Because you may not realize that college's base their tuition rates based on how much they estimate their student body can collect in financial aid. You clearly are on the fool's side of the issue. There is only one way one can be on the fool's side of an issue. Being very uninformed of the larger problem.
Anonymous
Tue Feb 7 2012 11:19
As a student from UTEP I can not believe there is such ignorance. Before writing this piece of GARBAGE do you research first. I guess Ron Paul is right, more gov interference in education less quality on your education.
UTEP Student
Tue Feb 7 2012 11:14
VOTE FOR THE STATUS QUO! If you want less civil liberties, more wars, more bailouts, more inflation, more dependent on gov.
VOTE RON PAUL 2012! If you want more liberty, bring the troops home, no more wars, no bailouts, End The Fed. Follow the CONSTITUTION.
If you are going to write an article like this, write about the issues that MATTER. Ex: Federal Reserve, following The Constitution, NDAA, wars.
Ron Paul: The Only One We Can Trust
Ralph Hornsby
Tue Feb 7 2012 11:10
But the big question is...are they registered to vote and will they? You see thousands of young people going ape for Paul, but I'm willing to bet only half are registered. They just want attention because it is cool and don't really care about our country's future.
Mike
Tue Feb 7 2012 11:05
I don't know if the author knows this, but Ron Paul (despite being an elderly man who flies cross country to Washington from southern Texas first class...the outrage in an elderly man choosing to do so when he has to fly there every few days...) still returns 100,000's of dollars to congress in unused funds granted to members of congress. He is the only one who returns such funds. He also votes against almost every spending bill. But you are right...what a jerk....
Anonymous
Tue Feb 7 2012 10:52
Really? You honestly don't understand? Or are you looking for work with Fox?
Alex
Tue Feb 7 2012 10:49
I came from a time before all school loans were federal....way back in 2006.... You fail to address why the cost of education has far outpaced average inflation and demand meanwhile the value of the education has decreased. Looking for evidence? "whatevs".... What in the world did we do before federal loans??? It must have been the dark ages! School was cheaper and worth more, and here came the government to save us...from what? I have no idea....but yes Ron Paul wants to piss in your cereal. Hide your kids, hide your wife, what will you do without a loan from the government? Wait, there were places to get student loans at lower interest rates before the Obama put took over the industry? You could shop around and find a plan that fit you best? Oh dear lord! The horror! Stick to theatre Miss Espinoza.
Anonymous
Tue Feb 7 2012 10:48
What's so hard to understand that government intervention in college funding only increases the costs? Don't you understand that it is a vicious cycle. The more the government supplements the more the universities raise their prices. Its a no win situation. Ron Paul is correct.
Anonymous
Tue Feb 7 2012 10:38
What a terrible smear article. First, you should watch the video in which Lawrence O'Donnell debunks your smear points: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3dbct7cPJU.

Second, as a 22 year old voter, I'll tell you exactly why I support Ron Paul:

I support Liberty. I support the right to earn money and to spend it in the way spend my money the way I please. I support my right to deal with the consequences of my actions. I support the right to pursue happiness as I define it (not as the government defines it).

Perhaps you'll understand that someday.







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